| Olympia's honest toil gets them to Milan Lakoseljac Memorial Trophy final |
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| Written by Walter Pless | Sunday, 24 July 2011 15:54 | |
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Photo: Fielding is allowed to clear with not a Devonport player in sight [PlessPix] Milan Lakoseljac Memorial Trophy Semi-Final (Warrior Park, Saturday, 23 July 2011) Olympia Warriors 2 (own-goal 8, B Cronk 26) Devonport City 0 HT: 2-0 Att: 100 Ref: C Phillips Olympia Warriors: Voss - Hey, Stockdale, Van Der Mey, Colosimo - Wadawu, Fielding, Phillips, Meredith (Kumpulainen 66) - Nandan (Shabenah 88), Cronk (Sub snot used: Page, Farrugia) Devonport City: Keep - Scott Wilson, Beardwood, Grattan,Wilson - Mulraney, Douglas, MacDonald, Chilcott (Simon Wilson - Douce (D McGinn 72), McKenna (Subs not used: Howard, Gleeson)
Photo: Devonport's Chris McKenna (left) confronted by Olympia's Josh Fielding [PlessPix] It took Devonport half the game to get the cobwebs out of their play. The four-hour bus trip and the unfamiliar artificial surface counted against them and, when they re-emerged for the second half, they were already 2-0 down. They had some glorious chances in the second 45-minutes, but their main weapon, striker Chris McKenna, was not as sharp as usual. He smacked one effort against the base of the far post and steered a relatively easy header wide of the right-hand post. These chances could have taken the game into extra-time. Craig Stockdale was assigned to man-mark McKenna and he did some good work, but those two missed chances may have cost Devonport a place in the final.
Photo: Devonport keeper Ryan Keep blocks a shot by Olympia's Alex Nandan [PlessPix] Having said that, no-one can argue that Olympia are not worthy finalists. They easily accounted for two Northern sides at Warrior Park in Somerset and Ulverstone, and then downed the highly-fancied Tilford Zebras in the quarterfinals. Now that they have reached the final, we will see how they handle grass. Olympia started confidently and took the lead after just 8 minutes when Brady Cronk released Warren Wadawu down the right. His low cross into the box was turned into the net by a Devonport defender while under pressure from Alex Nandan. It was 2-0 in the 26th minute when Cronk neatly nodded a cross from the left by Nick Meredith past Ryan Keep and into the net. Olympia keeper Jason Voss also did well to deny McKenna when a goal seemed certain.
Photo: Olympia take the lead as Devonport's Scott Wilson, under pressure from Alex Nandan, puts the ball into his own net [PlessPix] Olympia’s Ben Phillips hit a post shortly after and, had he scored, that would have killed off the match. But, he didn’t and Devonport were always in with a chance. Olympia were fortunate midway through the second half when Josh Fielding desperately cleared the ball off the line. And, there were those two chances that fell to McKenna. But, Nandan twice hit the post in the second half and if those shots had gone in it would have been an emphatic victory for the home side. The home support for Olympia was disappointing. Perhaps they get a better attendance for evening matches. We’ll see if the faithful turn up for the final at KGV Park.
Photo: Olympia's Joshua Colosimo clears ahead of Devonport's Brad Chilcott [PlessPix] ___________________________ Olympia Warriors coach, Franco Previdi, said: “I thought we played quite well in the first half. In the second half we probably lacked something, which wasn’t fitness. “It was probably mental toughness, which, in the next two or three weeks, we need when we play Beachside and Clarence and South Hobart. “They pressed us in midfield in the second half but we were winning 2-0 and didn’t have to chase the game.”
Photo: Olympia's Warren Wadawu shields the ball from Devonport's Kamil Douglas [PlessPix] Devonport coach, Tom McGinn, said: “They controlled the first half and we were 2-0 down at half-time and knew it would be a difficult game. “I thought we battled back into the game in the second half and I think the longer the game went the better we looked as the boys were getting used to the surface and the pace of the game. “We’d never use the surface as an excuse because we were outplayed in the first half. We were beaten by the better team. “It wasn’t so much the surface, but it could have been the size of the ground because Valley Road is a lot bigger.”
Photo: Olympia's Brady Cronk (right) with a Devonport defender hot on his heels [PlessPix]
Photo: Olympia's Ben Phillips (left) passes as Devonport's Brad Chilcott moves in [PlessPix]
Photo: Olympia Warriors' starting eleven with coach Franco Previdi [PlessPix]
Photo: Devonport City's starting eleven with coach Tom McGinn [PlessPix] |
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| Last Updated on Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:22 | |
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I was wondering if any of your players could dribble and pass the ball at all? The defence simply blasted long high balls into attack. All your midfielders did was win the ball and blast it. In the south many teams struggle to play three passes in a row, but you guys seemed content with one pass at the most.
Your training sessions must amount to old-fashioned
Aussie rules drills. Two packs of half your team at each end with one blasting a long, high ball in the general direction of the other. A player wins a header, knocking the ball on for a player to blast back another long, high ball to the other pack.
This must continue for training session after training session. You had a good target player, McKenna, good in the air, but had you ever thought of trying to cross it to him from the wings?
A few years ago I saw Devonport play South Hobart on a muddy pitch, then Olympia on a muddy pitch. Thankfully you played on a good pitch this time and were punished for playing awful football that Charles Reep and Charles Hughes would have loved.
There are a few underage rep teams on the north-west coast I've seen play decent football. You need to get those coaches to show you how to play football on the ground for 90 mins. It is possible.
FINALLY! Someone has the balls to come out and say that the pitch is not a problem. Oh and I'm pretty sure i mentioned that exact same thing on another thread but OH WELL! peace.
At the final you can expect a grandstand of blue .
First time this year Olympia have knocked the ball around as well, and it definitely worked (1st half especially). When the full backs played into Cronks feet, who would bounce it back into the midfielders or turn and run at the defence with Nandan they looked really dangerous. Much more dangerous than the usual over-the-top long balls into Kosta and Cronk. Well done Olympia.
On the other hand Olympia played some decent football in the first 35 minutes. The diagonal switches from the Olympia full backs, particularly Colosimo, caught the Devonport defence out of position frequently.
Olympia played some good football on the deck with decent combination play in the attacking half. On occasions Olympia made some nice triangles to achieve some decent combination play on the flanks. They often passed the ball up to 5-7 times. Every time I see Olympia play, they are improving the quality of their football.
Olympia's full backs also overlapped nicely. The cross from Meredith for Cronk to score was excellent, as was Cronk's strike.
Olympia's keeper Voss was a good shot stopper but needs to play it out to his defenders more often. Voss frequently had options to pass to unmarked full backs Hay and Colosimo.
Voss also needs to improve his foot skills to match his good shot stopping, roll the ball out more and ignore Stockdale telling him to blast it orbit like Devonport did for the first 70 minutes of the game.
Technical Directors Mr Berger and Mr Reynolds need to view the dross that Devonport served up. Australian teams are supposed to be playing possession 4-3-3 football.
I disagree.
Olympia played football, particularly in the first 35 minutes. If they keep developing and improving, it will be of a quality expected in a state state league if they can sustain the first 35 minutes over 90 minutes.
Devonport played long ball, aerial rubbish for most of the game. Football of that style doesn't belong in a state league.
That is all they did. Play tough, physical, obsolete British long ball football, devoid of technique, devoid of craft, rhythm changes and tactical subtleties.
Devonport competed for every ball with hard tackling, heavy shoulder barges and combative aerial work. In short a direct, second ball game, which should be confined to the egg ball codes in the 21st century. Devonport might be good at it, but it isn't fun to watch.
I agree the game was played in a excellent spirit. Fair play to both teams, but only one tried to play football.
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I don't think I've ever read so much crap from one person. I didn't think Devonport were great either in the first half & probably did play too long too often, but, I've seen them play on plenty of other occasions, including a couple of times this year, & they are usually much better. Maybe Olympia didn't allow them to play their 'normal' game style & they didn't adjust quickly enough to the small ground. Second half was a far better spectacle & both teams could've scored a couple. Well done Olympia, the recent signs have been very encouraging & I can't wait for the next few games to see the improvement continue.
Olympia played some decent football.
Devonport started to play in the last 20 minutes.
a) I hear Olympia didn't let them play, I didn't watch this match but from what i've seen they're poor in this respect. Were they genuinely good or were Devonport such a poor team they couldn't handle mediocre pressure?
b) I was a certain attendee at the final if Devonport had beaten Olympia, in the false belief that Devonport could take it up to S.H but now it's almost a fait accompli, not the result but the style of play and who will boss the game.
thats a bit harsh mate, some games are just like that and you have to remember this isnt the epl every coach has do the best with what they have got plus give olympia some credit they played well
as for the long balls mate we are used to playing on a larger field and the dimensions on saturday was way less than we normally play on however correct the ball should have been on the deck as the best playing surface in the state by a mile.
any way we must be good at the long ball if that is what you think we can only play as i am sure we have scored over 50 goals this year and i am sure other coaches plan really well for this and that is why we are getting success.
anyway in closing again give the better team more credit mate tmcg
Tom, I applaud you for having the bottle to reply. Your team no doubt has talent. You are very good at what you do, but it is not nice to watch.
McKenna is an excellent header of the ball and may be the best target forward in the state. Using the long ball you have had success in terms of results, but in Australia Han Berger wants a more technical, possession game. Overuse of the long ball is not good for international success.
As for coaching, why not see what Ken Morton, Dale Itchens, Mike Edwards, Andrew Brown and Dean May do at practice. Their teams play a lot of short passing, on the deck, like Olympia did at times.
I watched the game. Two years ago I did a Dutch KNVB Youth Certificate.
KNVB methodology is highly structured and tactically advanced street football. After imparting it to a rep team, it seemed a shame to impart it on only a squad of 16 players per season.
We've just started a school called Football For Everyone. It is based on KNVB methodology.
1a Skill acquisition (explicit instruction)
1b Skill acquisition in context.
2a 4v4 SSGs - 1-2-1 diamond formations and 5v5 with keepers
2b Rondos
FFE emphasises individual ball control and using it in game related exercises. Players touch the ball 1100-1600 times per training session.
I'm currently looking at SPL teams' training sessions. I've seen up to 250 touches, with one rep team only gaining 60 touches per session.
The Dutch/French advocate 2000 touches per week for players at any level.
In TIC, Technique for the KNVB is considered paramount throughout a player's career. Insight and Communication increase in importance as players mature.
KNVB dictates running without a ball is futile apart from professional teams.
Tom, you are welcome to visit FFE. The KNVB training paradigm emphasises a lot of short passing and dribbling in tight spaces - triangles and diamonds.
You no doubt have drills FFE can benefit from too.
Tell us again Jon, do you have a Dutch KNVB Youth Certificate?
I might have forgotten.
From what I've read the Dutch have one of the better coaching models in the world for football. If anyone is using it to coach Tassie kids then they can only benefit from good practices at training.
1100-1600 touches a session?How long are your training sessions?
Three days, 27 minutes
120 minutes.
If players move back to almost any position they dribble the ball using specific techniques.
If they wait for a partner to perform a technique, they practise dribbling techniques whilst stationary with the ball.
EnonEMouse (Olympia coaching staff) participates/assists, but I'm not sure he has been to a whole session and seen all the dribbling exercises.
Also, club coaches Eddie (Howrah) and Dallas (Woodbridge) participate/assist too. It is great for FFE to have these three blokes at training.
Chris and I couldn't do what these three youthful coaches do on the FFE training track!!! They've done plenty of ball work, SSGs and rondos like the players. They must be three of the fittest coaches in Hobart.
Agreed.
Also your asking Tom to attend one of your sessions for his benefit ... but who would be teaching who?
Is KNVB the technique that argues it developed Kewell's skills but then Harry said 'bollocks' to that?
If you say you have done all of the above and never heard of KNVB, then that is alarming in itself. If you have never heard of Clarefontaine and Coverciano, that is even more concerning.
KNVB is the national Dutch training school for football. The new FFA National Curriculum is based on KNVB
It was Coerver in Australia who claimed they developed Kewell's skills. Kewell said it wasn't true.
Wiel Coever, recently deceased, developed a football programme for players to develop every skill known to football players. He had a strained relationship with KNVB, but they recently found common ground.
I played in underage state squads too - many, many years ago. The assumption that REPUTATION is paramount is concerning. Former star players with big reputations don't always make good coaches.
Devonport plays obsolete football. It contravenes Han Berger's model for national playing style - possession based 4-3-3.
Han Berger is KNVB trained, like Rob Baan, Hiddink, Verbeek, Duut, Arnold and Versleijen.
We use the Dutch KNVB training model at FFE for developing young players to play contemporaneous football. Rather than criticise FFE without seeing it, have a look at it. Then one can make an informed judgement.
Are you anonymous that played for Australia ? I remember you .
To take this line of argument further and to its logical conclusion. If a suburban junior coach in Hobart travelled to France, Spain, Holland, Italy or Brazil for football training, then does all that knowledge they accrued in a week long course become immaterial?
That is, because they have no reputation.
A former work colleague in Hobart has recently trained in Brazil as a futsal coach. I had always known him as a passionate AFL fan. I didn't know he even liked football. I think all that knowledge he has acquired in Brazil is very relevant.
Some time in the future I hope to learn some things from him.
As a coach we can learn something from every football course/conversation/training session we involve ourselves in with anybody, regardless of reputation.
So unless you have seen or played against Devonport over the last few years dont even attempt to critique there play from one game !
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That is, because they have no reputation.
A former work colleague in Hobart has recently trained in Brazil as a futsal coach. I had always known him as a passionate AFL fan. I didn't know he even liked football. I think all that knowledge he has acquired in Brazil is very relevant.
Some time in the future I hope to learn some things from him.
As a coach we can learn something from every football course/conversation/training session we involve ourselves in with anybody, regardless of reputation.
Jon,
The best trained coaches in the world dont make the best coaches !
A lot of technically trained coaches dont get that most sports are played with a mental approach that some may say is 80% in the head ! Skills training dont teach that !
Well said!
If you say you have done all of the above and never heard of KNVB, then that is alarming in itself. If you have never heard of Clarefontaine and Coverciano, that is even more concerning.
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As I said I'm a regular poster on here and so it seems were you (CO and Decentric) and we both know you've discussed it on here more than a few times. Instead re-educating the masses like a prophet just post a link to the information.
I played in underage state squads too - many, many years ago. The assumption that REPUTATION is paramount is concerning. Former star players with big reputations don't always make good coaches.
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I'm glad you asked about reputation. Firstly I can't find anywhere in my post that says or even insinuates reputation is paramount. It would clearly make things easier for yourself but on the other hand reputation absolutely shouldn't be downplayed. Reputation is gained from the outcome of actions and achievements, sure it can be misleading at times but I find in Tas football its fairly spot on. Now I ask again, why haven't I heard of you? To forming your opinions the way you do, I assume you have extensive experience somewhere. I assume your involvement in the game has been continuous for some 30 years? You must be from the mainland, surely!
And I commend him on this.
Logical conclusion? Far far from it, again another assumption.
I would say if a suburban junior coach did all that yet their involvement in the game was limited and they then tried to inform senior coaches who have had extensive involvement at ALL LEVELS of what they should be doing they'd hit a bloody big brick wall. Any other outcome would bewilder me.
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